Games Inbox: When do you expect the Zelda: Breath Of The Wild 2 release date?

The Wednesday Inbox has more suggestions for the best PS4 co-op games, as one reader reminisces about Pokémon on the Game Boy.

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No rush
Most of the bigger sites don’t seem to have picked up on it, but I see there’s a rumour going round that Nintendo are aiming at 2020, presumably Christmas, for the release of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild 2. That seems much earlier than I would’ve expected but I wonder, if it’s true, whether they’re trying to line it up to counter the launch of the PlayStation 5 and new Xbox?

Considering the quality of most launch games through the ages it’s almost certain to be the best game that Christmas, so I can see the logic. And technically it’ll be almost three years since the last one, so if they’re using the same basic world map then I think it could be done. I hope they don’t rush anything though just to make that lucrative spot. That’s not something the Nintendo of old would’ve done, but nowadays I’m not so sure.

Even if they can get a decent game finished in that time what chance is there that it’ll have any really new ideas? Breath Of The Wild 1 is my favourite game ever and I’d hate to see it get a cash-in sequel. Some might say Majora’s Mask was done in a very short period of time but things were simpler back then, in terms of technology, so I’m not sure that’s true now.
PS: What does GC think of the rumour?

GC: We saw it but felt there wasn’t enough substance to run it as a story. That doesn’t mean it’s not true, but there’s no evidence yet.


Rising to mediocre
The Sonic movie does indeed look much better and even more incredibly now looks like a fairly normal, fairly bad family flick. There’s no end of clichés in there, the trailer showed probably all the best bits and I’m not sure Jim Carrey is exactly on fire in his role, but all of a sudden I really want check it out.

Well done Paramount.
Owen Pile


Wait and see
So let me get this straight. If I want to play a game via Stadia, I’ve got to buy it for £50 like normal? There being a subscription just improves the streaming? That is not what I was expecting at first. I realise that being able to play a high-end PC style version on any device is a big benefit, but I dunno. Google are going to have to go to a lot of effort to get people out of the habit of just getting everything on consoles, and it’s going to need more than some year-old games.

It’s also not a great idea to be launching at this time of year, just a week or so before Black Friday. By the end of the month you’ll be able to buy even the newest games for a big discount and the Stadia stuff will be sitting there waiting for their first sale.

On paper it all sounds great but I’m just not feeling the excitement, either for myself or from anyone else online. I guess it’s all going to be a slow build-up but it seems to me that Microsoft has got the right idea and just doing everything as a free test for now means no-ones going to get bent out of shape for paying real money. I think I’ll wait for the subscription free version at least.


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Honk if you like it
To anyone that have yet to play it, I urge you to give Untitled Goose Game a try. Yeah, it’s quite short (four to five hours with the post-game content) but has been priced accordingly, and unlike quite a lot of AAA games, none of the time you spend on the game is bloat, just wall to wall fun. Don’t be tempted to watch any videos beforehand, just mess about with the mechanics and see what happens. With a larger map and a bit more content this would easily be a 9/10 for me, but as it is a solid 8/10 and well worth the admission price.

I’m glad there’s room for lower-priced indie games in a sea of so called blockbusters, particularly on the Switch. Return Of The Obra Dinn is next up for me.
TheTruthSoul (PSN ID)
PS: Other than for one very specific instance in the pub, I couldn’t find any other use for the flap move in, unless I’m missing something?


Don’t count your chickens
Here is a crazy thought: in less than a week Shenmue 3 is going to be on sale! It’ll actually be real! A real thing that I can hold with my real hands! Really! I’ll be able to put into my actual PlayStation 4! And play it! For real! I’m using way too many exclamation marks right now! But I don’t care!
PS: I smiled when Royston spoke of EA’s ‘reputation’ the other day. It reminded me of Paul Whitehouse’s character The 13th Duke of Wybourne on the Fast Show. Yeah, I’m old. Meeee? Electronic Arts? Here? Releasing a single-player Star Wars game on day one at three o’clock in the morning without loot boxes, bugs, and microtransactions? With MY reputation? Well, hardly…


Death to death threats
I also have to decry the death threats that the Pokémon developers have received – and I say this as someone who was upset at the removal of the national dex!

I started off with Pokémon back in 1998, playing on a Game Boy Pocket that I got from opening a Halifax bank account.

I even still have a Mew that I got from a Pokémon tournament at the Metro Centre in 2000 (I think – it’s possible I was unable to transfer between some generations and I forgot.)

But where does this live? In the Pokémon Bank service on Nintendo’s servers.

I have the Pokémon organised by number (duplicates going into different boxes) and I have a complete collection (apart from Marshadow, due to how Nintendo handled that distribution).

Each time I get a new Pokémon game, I get to the point where I can transfer from the Bank (or whatever service exists at the time) into my game to complete the dex and then… re-upload them, only taking them out if I need them (e.g. taking out my Ditto for breeding)

Thinking about this I realised – I don’t actually care that much about just ticking all those boxes in the game, as that’s pretty much all I do with it. As long as I can store them somewhere, it doesn’t really matter to me.

Yes, I’d still prefer to have the national pokédex in the game (and shouldn’t it be called international at this point) but it’s not that important, and certainly not important enough to start sending death threats over.
Joseph Dowland


Virtual hit
Just wondering if you’re planning on reviewing Golem, coming out this Friday?

The game certainly looks intriguing and, given its pedigree of Marty O’Donell and Jamie Griesman of Halo and Destiny fame, I think it could be a surprise sleeper hit.
CapoCurious (PSN ID)

GC: We’re not sure how big a PlayStation VR is ever going to be, but we do have a review underway.


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Playing together
RE: David ‘Daley’ Thompson. There’s some cracking couch multiplayer games on the PlayStation 4. Here’s some I’ve played on my PlayStation 4, at a mate’s or at my partners and really enjoyed, the majority are family friendly and not too complicated.

  • Gang Beasts
  • Brawlout
  • This Is You
  • Human Fall Flat (although I can’t be 100% if I played this with my girlfriend in the room or if she was online at hers)
  • Nidhogg
  • Overcooked 2
  • WipEout Omega Collection
  • Broforce
  • LittleBigPlanet 3
  • Stikbold
  • Unravel Two
  • Brothers: A Tale Of Two Sons (albeit this is played by two people on one pad, each using a thumbstick – made me cry this one)
  • Alienation
  • Resogun
  • Team Sonic Racing
  • Crash Team Racing
  • Call Of Duty Zombies on Black Ops 2, with the Zombies Chronicles DLC
  • Borderlands 3 (also The Handsome Collection)
  • ToeJam & Earl: Back In The Groove
  • Dead Nation
  • Earth Defense Force 5
  • Lego Marvel Super Heroes 2 (could add most Lego games here really, this is just one I personally found fun)

I’m sure there’s a ton I’ve forgotten, there’s one my friend has that reminded me of Takeshi’s Castle/Wipeout, absolutely crackers Japanese game but I can’t remember the name of it (maybe GC will know) but there’s loads of decent couch co-op games out there for all tastes.

If you want to try a load out for not much money, PlayStation Now has quite a large selection, as well as some big games like God Of War, Uncharted 4, GTA 5, Persona 5, and loads of PlayStation 2 and 3 games when co-op seemed more prevalent. You don’t have to spend mega money to try out dozens of titles to find what you really like.

Welcome to the new (for a short while longer) generation and enjoy. If you wanted to try No Way Out which I saw you mention, it’s on EA Access, so you’d only lose £4 if you didn’t like it – from what I’ve heard off people that played it, a 6/10 was pretty unfair as they all seemed to really enjoy it and told me to give it a go, unfortunately I’d already had most the plot spoiled so never bothered.

Unravel Two, which I mentioned is also on that as well as all the Need For Speeds, Burnout, FIFAs, NBA, Maddens, etc., most of which have two-player.

GC: The Japanese game may have been Nippon Marathon.


Inbox also-rans
Just a heads up, Battlefield 5 is £57.99 in GAME but £19.99 in Argos. I assume if you buy the game new the updates will install automatically.

Many thanks to the reader who brought the remake of Waxworks to my attention. For some reason I can’t get the Early Access version (and it looks like it wouldn’t run on my PC anyway, looking at the system specs), but this is a project I’ll be following with great interest.
Andrew Middlemas

Those PlayStation 5 cartridges are most likely for Japan only.

GC: That doesn’t seem to fit the aesthetic. The latest theory is that it’s some kind of SSD expansion.


This week’s Hot Topic
The subject for this weekend’s Inbox was suggested by reader NL, who asks what is the best video game sequel you’ve ever played?

As a flipside to last week’s Hot Topic about the worst sequels, what do you feel has been the best? Was is it a major overhaul for the series, a return to its roots, or simply a minor upgrade that nevertheless made it the best there’s ever been?

What sequel has been most effective at reinventing a series or rejuvenating interest in what may have been an ailing franchise? To be clear, anything counts as long as it can be generally counted as an official sequel, follow-up, or reboot.

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